"They had their kingdom in Karauli in Rajasthan. They were called Shoorsainis. Sri Krishna's grandfather was Shoorsen because of which the region around Mathura was known as Shoorsen and Yadavas of this region were called Shoorsainis."
In the geneaologies given below, Dharam Pala (Pkt. Dham Pal) is described as 77th in line from Krishna and is roughly dated to have ascended to throne in about 800 A.D. He is the first Shoorsaini king who was known to have revived the dynasty after long periods of Maurya, Kushan, and Gupta rule of region around Mathura and Delhi.
Also see: Geneaology of Tomara Rulers of Delhi
"If we place Vatsadaman in A.D. 750 to 775, the head of the family, Phakka, will date from A.D. 600, reckoning twenty five years to each generation. As none of the names agree with those of the Yadava princes of Bayana, as recorded by the bards, it seems probable that these chiefs of Kaman, or Kadamba-vana, were only a branch of the famous Surasenas of Mathura."
In the above list first fifteen kings or lineal descendants of Dharam Pal upto Raja Kanwar Pal may be safely linked with the Sainis of Punjab and many other Rajput clans in the neighboring hills. Saini clan of Dhamrait and Pathania clan of Dhamrial may be derived from the name of Dharam Pal. This is also suggested by the fact that older name of Nurpur, the capital of Pathania Tomaras, is described as "Dhameri" in Gurdaspur district which was supposedly founded by Raja Jeth Pal in 1095 AD . This Raja Jeth Pal is likely given as Jaita Pal in Bhat Mookji's geneaology. Not only this , there is a "Dhameri" about hundred miles west of Delhi, and the name "Dhampal" is also found as a clan among Jadhava line of Marathas.
Normally, when clans migrate to distant lands they generally try their best to retain the memory of their ancestors and older habitations. This is generally done by founding new habitations named after their revered ancestors or after the names of the cities or towns they inhabited in their former abodes. In many cases similar sounding names in distantly located groups may trace back to a common ancestory or place of origin.
Similarly, Saini clan of "Thinday" , generally distorted as "Thind", may have some association with Raja Tahan Pal who was also known as "Thind Pal" colloquially. In like fashion, "Adhania Kshatriya" , another clan of Sainis of Punjab, could be linked with Adhan Pal, a Shoorsaini Rajput chief. While philological speculation like this may not necessarily constitute a definitive proof in itself , the uncanny similarity of names and native accounts from independent sources is quite remakarable nonetheless.
Yet another example of this correspondence- and perhaps even more convincing one - is that of "Taank" Rajputs. Taank is a significant clan amoung Sainis of Punjab who , as noted by many scholars, invariably claim Yaduvanshi decent from Mathura (TM Dak, 1994). Taank Rajputs are sometimes described as remnants of "Takshak" tribe but Saini Taanks have no such recollecton of being linked with Takshaks, and see themselves only as Yaduvanshis who came from Mathura along with other Saini clans after Turk invasion. And after a perusal of the similarities of accounts and names among Sainis and Rajput clans of hills and Mewat as underscored above, it would almost seem no co-incidence that Taank Rajputs of Mainpuri in Oudh (present UP) also claimed to be Yaduvanshis (Crooke, 1890) like their Saini Taank counterparts in Punjab even though two groups with common origin are now probably not even aware of each others existence. Taank Rajputs of Mainpuri considered themselves connected with the Yaduvanshi rulers of Karauli whose ancestors , as we had already noted, were also called Shoorsainis or Sainis at a certain point of time in history ( SS Sashi, 1996; Cunningham, 1885).
"Surasenas had a separate dialect, known in ancient times as Suraseni, just as their descendants..."
There are however few facts that we can be absolutely sure of without any need of synthesis and deduction. One is that the kings mentioned in the bhat vamsavalis or geneaologies were called "Shoorsaini" or more generally, just "Saini" atleast till about 13 AD. Rana Hamir's General is described as one Gurdan Saini by Amir Khusro as late as this period. It is very well established that Rana Hamir Dev Chauhan was associated with Shoorsainis of Mathura and Bayana as both Chauhans and their Yadava allies remained in rebellion against Muslim rule until much after the defeat of Prithvi Raj Chauhan in the 1192 AD (Sharma, 1966).
Another pertinent fact we can be sure of is that many clan names of Sainis of Punjab are also found among Meos and Hill Rajputs who derive their descent from identical lineages and that the ABO blood group and gene distribution frequencies of Sainis of Punjab are identical with those of their Rajput conterparts on the neighboring hills (SIngh IP, SIngh D., 1961).
- REPORT OF A TOUR IN EASTERN RAJPUTANA IN 1882-83 , VOLUME XX, A. Cunningham, Archaeological Survey of India, pp 2, 7, 57-59, Published by Office of the Superintendent of Government Printing, 1885 ,Item notes: v.20 1882-1883, Original from the University of Michigan
- "The Tank Rajputs of Mainpuri say they are Yaduvansis and claim kinship with the Yadava princes of Jesalmer and Kuraoli" , An ethnographical hand-book for the N.-W. provinces and Oudh , pp177 , William Crooke,North-Western provinces and Oudh government press, 1890 - Social Science
- American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 1961 Sep;19:223-5.The study of ABO blood groups of Sainis of Punjab, SINGH IP, SINGH D.,PMID: 13913332
- People of India: Haryana, Saini, pp 430 , Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K.
Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994
- "The Shura Rajputs , of whom Hammira's minister and commander, Ranamalla, was one, probably represented the ancient Surasenakas [sic]", Rajasthan Through Ages, A comprehensive and authentic history of Rajasthan prepared under the orders of the Government of Rajasthan, pp 13, Dr. Dasharatha Sharma, MA , D.Litt , Rajasthan State Archives, Bikaner, 1966